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V. By F. P. Hill, Warren county, O. 1. Hale's Early, (not fully tested.) 6. Crawford's Late. 2. Troth's Early.

7. Heath Free. 3. Large Early York, or "Honest John." 8. Smock Free. 4. Crawford's Early.

9. Heath Cling. 5. Oldmixon Free.

VI. By T. T. Lyon, Plymouth, Michigan. 1. Hale's Early, (not tested.)

7. Barnard's Yellow Red Rareripe. 2. Troth's Early

8. Oldmixon Free. 3. Cooled ge’s Favorite.

9. Crawford's Late. 4. Large Early York.

10. New York Cling, (eparingly.) 5. Crawford's Early.

11. Tippecanoe Cling, 6. White Imperial.


Dr. L. Colling, of St. Josephs, Michigan, writes : “Our next peach, after Hale's Early, is Wheeler's Early (small and poor); then Troth's, followed by Cooledge's, “Honest John," (yellow), and Crawford's Early, and five or six days later comes Bergen's Yellow, the best of all yellow-fleshed peaches, but a shy bearer; next Oldmixon Free, Ward's Late and Crawford's Late ; and last of all, Keyport White, (freestone,) which stands at the head of all late peaches in this region for market purposes, ripening after frosts come in Oetober."


DISCUSSION ON GRAPES CATAWBA-Dr. Taylor said it did not ripen well with him the past season; fruit was generally well colored, but was not sweet; he bad formerly thought warm sandy soil the best, but found the best grapes this year on clayey soil.

Mr. Elliott thinks the Catawba ripened about as well as in the average of seasons around Cleveland; the must was from 75 to 80° by the saccharometer, which is the usual average for that region, and makes fair wine. One vineyard, five miles back from the lake, on clay soil, had better grapes than any other in the county the past

There were about 500 acres of vineyard in bearing in Cuyahoga county, and 500 more planted the past 2 or 3 years—1,000 in all.

Mr. Powers, of Perrysburg, said the Catawba ripened pretty well with him the past fall, on the east side of Maumee river, 16 miles from the lake, and 8 miles from Toledo; but back from the river, on the prairie, it did not ripen. The vineyard of Mr. Neely, on the west side of the river, ripened well.

J. Austin Scott bad the Catawba ripen well for more than twenty years, 7 miles from Toledo, at Fort Miami, on stiff clayey soil ; vines never killed but once ; fruit very good, perhaps not quite as sweet as on lake shore.

Mr. Dewey, of Sandusky, said crop ripened well the past season, though frost killed the leaves quite early (October 12th) in many vineyards, but did not injure the fruit. He presented samples of wine made from the crop of the past season, the must of which weighed 90°. It was pronounced good, though too new to be fairly judged. He said frost did not injare well ripened Catawbas; one year ago he left some on the vines till the 20th of January, and they were sweet and fine ; ice was on the bay then.

Mr. Barney, of Sandusky, said bis crop had done well, considering the severe test of frost. When fruit is ripe, with a bloon, it is not injured by frost. Tops of the vines were badly cut by frost (October 12th) in some vineyards, but fruit not injured ; picked some in December, sweet and good.

Mr. Lum, four miles from Sandusky, had a few vines of Catawba not well pruned ; fruit did not ripen ; leaves killed by frost 12th of October.

Mr. Kelly, of the Island, said crop ripened well, no frost till 1st to 10th of Novensber; no injury to the grape ; must as sweet as ever ; season two or three weeks. longer than on main shore. Vegetation on the Island starts when the water in the lake reaches 40° of temperature, (about two weeks later than on the main land,) then no frosts occur.

Mr. Boalt said the Catawba bad not done well at Norwalk ; soil sandy and gravelly, not as favorable as heavy soils, if well underdrained; bad seen grapes pretty good at Berlin, three miles from the lake.

Mr. Woods, of Jefferson county, Obio, said near the Ohio river the Catawba ripens well, but not so well a few miles back.

Mr. Bateham, of Columbus, did not think the Catawba often ripened perfect!y around Columbus, and yet it was called ripe, and made a fair gort of wine; he thougtet other varieties would supersede it in a few years.

Dr. Warder said around Cincinnati the rot was the great misfortune of the Catawba; the crop of the past season was not over one-third to one-half fair average ; pected a yield of 800 gallons, and only got 50 ; others were more fortunate. A wine grape that shall prove equal to the Catawba, and exempt from the rot, is the great desideratum there.

Messrs. Lyon, Scott, and Adair, of Michigan, spoke of the Catawba as seldom ripeniag well there.

Mr. Nelson, cf Fort Wayne, Ind., said it generally ripened 80 as to be called good, and sells well, but is not very sweet.

Mr. Beeler, of Indianapolis, said it did pretty well there, especially on limestone soil.

Mr. Emery, of Ill., said on river-bluffs the Catawba was found pretty good; other parts not much value.

CLINTON.-Mr. Elliott and Mr. Batebam were of the opinion that this variety might be dispensed with, now that so many better hardy varieties can be had.

Mr. Storrs, of Painesville, considered it worth cultivating, so hardy, vigorous, and productive; fruit pretty good after a frost, and ladies like it for pies.

Mr. Scott liked it better than Isabella fer eating, but some doubts were expressed as to his being the Clinton.

Mr. Dewey had made wine of it, strong and harsh, with three pounds of sugar to the gallon, and one-half water ; was pretty good.

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Mr. Barney thought it was worth growing for wine where the Catawba will not ripen.

Mr. Emery, and others, thought it valuable at the North, but might be generally displaced by Concord and H. Prolific.

Dr. Warder liked the Clinton when fully ripe ; and it makes pretty good wine, (better than the Oporto,) which may be found valuable for mixing with other wines.

CONCORD.—Dr. Taylor considered this the grape for the farmers, or those who will not take the pains to cultivate finer varieties.

Mr. Elliott and Mr. Powers expressed similar opinions ; called it the people's grape; hardy, vigorous, early, productive and good, though not first rate.

Mr. Campbell said, without being a very good grape, it bad many good qualities; not very good to carry or to keep; good for home use and home market only ; be would cultivate it for its hardiness, earliness, and productiveness.

Mr. Fahnestock, of Toledo, said it was very hardy and reliable, and the grape for the million.

Mr. Scott, of Adrian, and others, from Michigan, also spoke highly in its favor.

Mr. Nelson, of Ind., said the Horticultural Society of that State bad recommended it as the best single variety for the million.

Mr. Emery said it was more disseminated in Illinois than any other variety.

CUYAHOGA - Dr. Taylor referred to his remarks at the meeting of the Ad interim committee, and said the fruit did not ripen as well as be bad boped the past season, hence he had some misgivings as to its reliability in bis climate, still be had hopes that it would improve as the Diana and some others had done. The leaf sometimes mildewed.

Mr. Barney had the fruit ripen well, but late; quality better than Lydia, but three or four weeks later.

Mr. Campbell said it did not ripen with him, zor did the Catawba; he thought the one would ripen where the other would.

DELAWARE.-Mr. Storrs and Dr. Taylor called it the best of all grapes, especially for amateurs ; grows strong enough with proper soil and culture; thinks it will also prove a good wine grape.

Mr. Elliott coincided, and said it bears carriage finely, though he thought it was liable to crack if not picked soon after ripe.

Mr. Powers and Mr. Lum found it the best of all grapes.

Mr. Boalt the same, and said he considered it just as much a farmer's grape as the Roncord; for he did not see why the best grape was not the best for farmers as well as for other people.

Mr. Nelson said he was a farmer, and he liked the Delaware grape, but be would venture the prediction that it would never be as extensively planted or approved by the million as the Concord.

Mr. Campbell spoke of the Delaware as keeping remarkably well till Christmas or later.

Mr. Dewey expressed surprise at this, and said, with him it was the poorest variety

of all to keep; What, poorer than the Corcord ?” asked one : “Yes, poorer than any other ;” said Mr Dewey, “ for I put a basket of about twenty pounds of fine bunches in my cupboard one day, and in 24 hours afterwards not a grape was to bu found !” This proof was deemed quite conclusive that the Delaware is a bad grape to keep !

Diana.-Mr. Elliott and Mr. Storrs said their impressions of this grape were more favorable than formerly.

Mr. Bateham thought it very variable ; had seen it quite poor, ripening unevenly and flavor very bad, and at other times very good; he was not yet prepared to recommend it highly

Mr. Lum had it ripen well, but flavor was too foxy.
Mr. Jones, of Toledo, liked the flavor, found it ripens as well as Catawba.

Dr. Warder thinks the vine a little tender ; does ’nt quite like the fruit ; not fit for table, thick skin and pulp objectionable ; may prove useful to give flavor to wine like the Delaware.

HARTFORD PROLIFIC.-Mr. Elliott spoke well of it as an early and hardy grape, good for the north. Its chief fault is the habit of the borries falling off as soon as ripe, rendering it unfit to carry to market.

Mr. Powers likes it well, berries do not fall off much after the first one or two crops.

Mr. Dewey and Mr. Boalt approve moderately, another “farmers' grape.” The gentlemen from Michigan and Indiana also like it pretty well.

ISABELLA.-Mr. Storrs said this was still a good and popular grape in many parts of the country, though not so much thought of as formerly. He alluded to the habit of this variety to sport or vary in the form and size of berry and bunch, and the discussions that had arisen therefrom, some persons supposing there were two or more kinds.

Mr. Batebam said this subject was discussed at some length at the meeting of the Committee Ad interim in September, and he read an extract from the report of the


Mr. Elliott said there were certainly two varieties of the Isabella on Kelley's Island some years ago, if not now, and also in Medina county, and some other parts.

Dr. Taylor said he was at Dr. Kirtland's one day, as grapes were ripening, and Dr. K., said: “There was a good Isabella till the roots got into that sewer, and now it is a good Aiken.” He had noticed wherever the supposed two varieties existed, that the Aiken had the richest soil.

Mr. Campbell said he had vines from Dr. Kirtland, as the Aiken, planted them in rather poor soil, and the fruit was simply the old Isabella.

Mr. Powers found the Isabella doing well in bis locality; bad noticed the disposition to vary in size and shape ; where he had dug a trench and put in dead dogs, manure, &c., fruit large, round, resembling the Union Village, while others retained the old size and shape.

Mr. Dunnipace, of Porrysburg, had seen grapes exhibited as a new variety, very large, round berries and compact bunches; procured cuttings from the vino, and set

them in a vineyard along with the common Isabella, and the fruit was precisely the same—the old shape and size.

Mr. Bateham spoke of the improvement of this grape by good culture, and of the necessity of thioning the crop when bearing full, to ensure its ripening evenly.

Mr. Dewey said he had made fair wine from this grape, but the addition of a little sugar was necessary, the must only weighs about 70°.

Mr. Adrian said the Isabella was more grown than any other variety in Michigan, and was approved there.

Logan.—Mr. Elliott spoko well of this grape: bad seen it several years; as early as the Hartford Prolific, and better quality.

Mr. Barney had known it very many years; original vine on Scioto river, in a big wild cherry tree; thought it the best early grape.

Mr. Nelson had known it in Indiana, 25 or 30 years; it was introduced there from the Scioto country; be thought it of some value for earliness and hardiness, but not of very good quality.

Mr. Campbell said it was very hardy and early, fair quality, but deficient in size of bunch and productivemess.

LYDIA.—Mr. Flliott thought this might be found a good grape for early market culture ; has thick skin, fitting it to bear carriage well, fine color, and good fle vor.

Mr. McKelvey, of Sandusky, said it had done well with bim the past seasonrotted the year previous.

Mr. Barney and Mr. Lum, of Sandusky, bad observed it for several years ; thought well of it, but did not think it a good bearer.

Mr. Ward said he had a fair crop of it, but not balf so much fruit as on the same wood of Isabella. Did not think it sufficiently productive for a market variety.

Mr. Campbell had found it early and good—not quite as early nor as productive as the Delaware.

MOTTLED.—Mr. Elliott said the more he saw of this grape the more highly be esteemed it; thought it might prove a good wine grape.

Mr. McKelvey had seen it several years at Mr. Carpenter's; did not think very highly of it.

Mr. Barney has had it for six years ; finds it improves ; counts it wortby of trial by amateurs.

Norton's VIRGINIA was spoken of by Dr. Warder and others as becoming very popular as a wine grape in Missouri and the southwest, but doubts were expressed whether it could be relied on to ripen its fruit generally in Ohio ; though Mr. Elliott said he had known it to ripen well at Cleveland.

Rebecca.—Dr. Warder, Mr. Fahnestock, Mr. Powers, Mr. Elliott, and others spoke well of it.

Mr. Campbell said it was not quite bardy, and mildews sometimes.

Mr. Adair said it wants a little protection in Michigan, but fruit is fine, and be likes it. Rogers’ Hybrids. —Mr. Campbell

, by request, stated his views at considerable


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