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be thought a malicious Invention of mine, the Person being Dead. I have said nothing yet but what I can justify, but this I cannot.
Question II. Some Words fell from your Grace Yesterday, wherein you were pleased to say some had gotten 3, 4, 500ocol. The House would know who they were, and by what means they had gotten fuch Suis.
Duke of Buckingham's Answer. I am not well acquainted by what means they got so much, being not at all acquainted with the ways of getting Money. What the Duke of Ormond has got is upon Record, being about 500000 l, my Lord Arlington has not got so much, but has got a great deal.
Question III. By whose Advice was the Army raised, and Monsieur Schomberg made General ?
Duke of Buckingham's Answer. I cannot say by whose Advice, but upon my Honour, not by mine. I was told by a Man that's dead, that my Lord Arlington sent for him, and it will be easily proved.
Question IV. By whose Advice was this Army brought up to awe the Debates and Resolutions of the House of Commons
Duke's Answer. I must make to this the same Answer as I did before ; it was a Discourse from a Man dead, of one now living. If I had deferv'd
the Honour, I think I might have had the Command of that Army before him, but Schomberg was told, my Lord Arlington would have the Government by an Army.
Duke's Answer. My Lord_Arlington and myself were only employ'd to Treat, and finding the danger we were in of being Cheated, we pressed the Ambassadors to Sign before they had Power ; and tho''twas an odd Request, yet they did Sign.
Question VI. Who made the first Treaty with France, by which the Triple Alliance was broken?
Duke's Answer. I made that Treaty.
Question VII. By whose Advice was the Exchequer sbut up, and the order of Payment there broken?
Duke's Answer. I do not disown that I advised it ; being always of Opinion, that something was to be done in that Nature in matters of Conscience, but no farther than the King might do by Law.
Question IX. : Who advised the Attacking the Smyrna-Fleet before the War was Proclaimed?
Duke's Answer. It was my Lord Arlington's Advice, I was utterly against it, as careful of the Honour of the Nation, and incurred fome Anger by it. My Lord Arlington principally inoved it, and I might say more.
Question X. By whose Advice was the second Treaty at Utretcht?
Duke's Answer. My Lord Arlington and I were sent over, and I found in Holland the greatest Consternation imaginable, like the burning of the Rump in England, the People crying, God bless the King of England, and cursing the States; and had we then Landed, we might have conquer'd the Country. The Prince of Orange would have had the same share in the Peace with France that we had, but tho' the King's Nephew, I thought he must be kind to his own Country; if we had made a Peace then, we had been in a worfe condition than before; and lastly, the Prince of Orange hoped for a good Peace with us, upon that Treaty, but I would never consent that France must have all and we nothing. The Consequence would be that Holland must intirely depend upon France, and I think it a wise Article, that the French were not to make Peace without us,
Then the Debate followed.
The Duke's Speech in the House
of Lords, Nov. 16. 1657. Upon Liberty of Conscience. My Lords, THE "Here is a thing calld Property, which (whatever some Men may
think) is that the People of England are fondest of, it is that they will never part with, and it is that His Majesty, in his Speech, has promised us to take a particular care of. This, My Lords, in my Opinion, can never be done without giving an Indulgence to all Protestant Dissenters. It is certainly a very uneasy kind of Life to any Man, that has either Christian Charity, Humanity, or Good Nature, to see his Fel
Speeches in Parliament. 203 low-Subjects daily abus’d, divested of their · Liberty and Birthrights, and miserably thrown out of their Possessions and Freeholds, only because they cannot agree with others in some Niceties of Religion, which their Consciences will not give them leave to consent to; and which, even by the Confeflion of thofe, who would impose them upon them, are no ways necessary to Salvation. But, my Lords, besides this, and all that may be faid upon it, in order to the improvement of our Trade, and increase of the Wealth, Strength, and Greatness of this Nation, (which, under favour, I shall presume to difcourse of fome other time) there is, methinks, in this Notion of Persecution, a very gross Mistake, both as to the Point of Government, and the Point of Religion. There is so, as to the Point of Government, because it makes every Man's Satisfa&ion depend on the wrong place, not upon the Governour, or a Man's living well towards the Civil Government established by Law, but upon his being transported with Zeal for every Opinion that is held by those that have power in the Church then in fashion; and it is, I conceive, a Mistake in Religion, because it is positively against the express Doctrine and Example of Jesus Christ. Nay, my Lords, as to our Protestant Religion, there is something in it yet worse; for we Protestants maintaint, that none of those Opinions which Christianis differ about are infallible; and