prepare breakfast early. The Gentleman the Princess was walking with was a tall man; I was surprised to see the Princess walking with a Gentleman at that time in the morning-I am sure it was the Princess. While we were at Blackheath, a woman at Charlton, of the name of Townley, told me that she had some linen to wash from the Princess's house; that the linen was marked with the appearance of a miscarriage, or a delivery. The woman has since left Charlton, but she has friends there. I think it must have been before the child was brought to the Princess that the woman told me this. I know all the women in the Princess's house. I don't think any of them were in a state of pregnancy, and if any had I think I must have known it. I never told Cole that Mary Wilson, when she supposed the Princess to be in the library, had gone into the Princess's bedroom, and had found a man there at breakfast with the Princess, or that there was a great deal to do about it, and that Mary Wilson was sworn to secrecy, and threatened to be turned away if she divulged what she had seen. The Deposition of Mary Ann Wilson. I believe it will be ten years next quarter that I have lived with the Princess. I waited on the Ladies who attend the Princess. I remember when the child who is now with the Princess was brought there. Before it came I heard say it was to come. The mother brought the child. It appeared to be about four months old when it was brought. I remember twins being brought to the Princess before that child was brought. I never noticed the Princess's shape to be different in that year from what it was before. I never had a thought that the Princess was with child. I think she could not have been with child, and have gone on to her time, without my knowing it. I was at Southend with the Princess. Capt. Manby used to visit the Princess there. I made the Princess's bed, and have been in the habit of making it ever since I lived with her Royal Highness, Another maid, whose name is Ann Bye, assisted with me in making the bed. From what I observed, I never had any reason to believe that two persons had slept in the bed; I never saw any particular appear ance in it. The linen was washed by Stikeman's wife. The Deposition of Samuel Roberts. I am footman to the Princess of Wales. I remember the child being taken by the Princess. I never observed any particular appearance of the Princess in that yearnothing that led me to believe that she was with child. Sir Sydney Smith used to visit the Princess at Blackheath. I never saw him alone with the Princess. He never stayed after 11 o'clock. I recollect Mr. Cole once asking me, I think three years ago, whether there were any favourites in the family? I remember saying that Capt. Manby and Sir Sydney Smith were fre quently at Blackheath, and dined there oftener than any other persons. I never knew Sir Sydney Smith to stay later than the Ladies. I cannot say exactly at what hour he went, but I never remember his staying alone with the Princess. Deposition of Thomas Stikeman. I have been page to the Princess of Wales ever since she has been in Eng land. When I first saw the child who is with the Princess, it was about four years ago. Her Royal Highness had a strong desire to have an infant, which I and all the house knew. I heard there was a woman who had twins, one of which the Princess was desirous to have, but the parents would not part with it. A woman came to the door with a petition to get her husband replaced in the dock-yard, who had been removed; she had a child with her; I took the child, I believe, and shewed it to Mrs. Sander. I then returned the child to the woman. I made inquiries after the father, and afterwards de sired the woman to bring the child again to the house, which she did. The child was taken to the Princess; after the Prin cess had seen it she desired the woman to take it again, and bring it back in a few days, and Mrs. Sander was desired to provide linen for it. Within a few days the child was brought again by the mother, and was left, and has been with the Princess ever since. I do not recollect the child had any mark,but upon reflection, I do recollect that the mother said he was marked with elder wine on the hand. The father of the child, whose name is Austin, lives with me at Pimlico. My wife is a laundress, and washes the linen of the Prince. Austin is employed to turn a mangle for me. The child was born in Brownlow-street. I never saw the woman to my knowledge before she came with the petition to the door, I had no particular directions by the Prin cess to procure a child; I thought it better to take the child of persons of good character than the child of a pauper. Nothing led me, from the appearance of the Prin cess, to suppose she was with child; but from her shape it is difficult to judge when she is with child. When she was with child of the Princess Charlotte, I should not have known it when she was far advanced in her time, if I had not been told it.-Sir Sydney Smith, at one time, visited very frequently at Montague-house, two or three times a week, at the time the Princess was altering her room in the Turk ish style. Sir Sydney Smith's visits were very frequent. The Princess consulted him upon them. Mr. Morell was the up holsterer Sir Sydney Smith came frequently alone. He staid alone with the Princess sometimes till eleven o'clock at night. He has been there till twelve o'clock 1819.] Depositions relative to the Princess of Wales. 261 supper; I never observed that the Prin- ➜'clock at night, and after, I believe, alone with the Princess. The Princess is of that lively vivacity, that she makes herself familiar with gentlemen, which prevented my being struck with his staying so late. I do not believe that at that time any other gentlemen visited the Princess so often and stayed so late. I have seen the Princess, when they were alone, sitting with Sir Sydney Smith on the same sofa in the blueroom. I had access to the blue-room at all times; there was an inner-room which opened into the blue-room when that room was not lighted up. I did not go into it, I did not consider that I had a right to go into it. I had no idea on what account I was brought here. I did not know that the Princess's conduct was questioned, or questionable. I was with the Princess at Ramsgate; when she was at East Cliff, Captain Manby was very frequently there; went away as late as eleven o'clock. I do not remember Fanny Lloyd being called up any morning to make breakfast for the Princess. I did not like Capt. Manby's coming so often and staying so late, and I was uneasy at it. I remember a piece of plate, a silver lamp, being sent to Capt. Manby; I saw it in Siccard's possession; he told me it was for Capt. Manby, and he had a letter to send with it. I have never seen Capt. Manby at the Princess's, at Ramsgate, before nine in the morning, but I have heard he has been there earlier. I had never any suspicion of there being any thing improper, either from the frequent visits of Capt. Manby, or from his conduct, I was at Catherington with the Princess; she used to go out generally in her own chaise. I think I have once or twice seen her go out with Mr. Hood, in his one-horse chaise; they have been out for two hours, or two hours and a half together. I be lieve only a day or two elapsed between the time of the child being first brought, and being brought again and left with the Princess. I am sure the child was not weaned after it had been first brought. I do not recollect any gentle, man ever sleeping in the house, I do not remember Lawrence the painter ever sleeping there. The Princess seems very fond of the child; it is always called Willy as ourselves. We were usually kept at liam Austin. The Deposition of John Siccard. I have lived seven years with the Princess of Wales, am house-steward, and have been in that situation from the end of six months after I first lived with her Royal Highness. I remember the child who is now with the Princess of Wales being brought there; it was about five months old when it was brought; it is about four years ago, just before we went to Ramsgate. I had not the least suspicion of the object of my being brought here. I had opportunity of seeing the Princess fre, quently; I waited on her at dinner and I think I first became acquainted with the Princess of Wales in 1801. Sir John Douglas had a house at Blackheath. One day, in Nov.1801, the snow was lying on the ground. The Princess and a Lady, who, I believe, was Miss Heyman, came on foot, and walked several times before the door. Lady Stewart was with me, and said, she thought the Princess wanted something, and that I ought to go to her. I went to her. She said she did not want any thing, but that she would walk in; that I had a very pretty little girl. She came in and staid some time. About a fortnight after Sir J. Douglas and I received an invitation to go to Montague-house; after that I was very frequently at Montague-house, and dined there. The Princess dined frequently with us. About May or June, 1802, the Princess first talked to me about her own conduct. Sir S. Smith, who had been Sir John's friend for more than twenty years, came to England about November, 1801, and came to live in our house. Í understood the Princess knew Sir S. Smith before she was Princess of Wales. The Princess saw Sir Sydney Smith as frequent Montague-house later than the rest of the party, often till three or four in the morning. I never observed any impropriety of conduct between Sir Sydney Smith and the Princess, I made the Princess a visit at Montague-house in March 1802, for about a fortnight. She desired me to come there, because Miss Garth was ill. In May or June following, the Princess came to my house alone: she said she came to tell me something that had happened to her, and desired me to guess-I guessed several things, and at last I said I could not guess any thing more. She then said she was pregnant, aud that the child had come to life. I don't know whether she said on that day, or a few days before, that she was at breakfast at Lady Willoughby's, that the milk flowed up to her breast, and came through her gown; that she threw a napkin over herself, and went with Lady Willoughby into her room, and adjusted herself to prevent its being observed. She never told me who was the father of the child. She said she hoped it would be a boy. She said that if it was discovered, she would give the Prince of Wales the credit of being the father, for she had slept two nights at Carleton-house within the year. I said that I should go abroad to my mother. The Princess said she should manage it very well, and if things came to the worst, she should give the Prince the credit of it. While I was at Montague-house, in March, I was with child, and one day I said I was very sick, and the Princess desired Mrs. Sander to get me a saline draught. She then said that she was very sick herself, and would take a saline draught too. I observed, that she could not want one, and I looked at her. The Princess said, yes, I do; what do you look at me for with your wicked eyes; you are always finding me out. Mrs. Sander looked very much distressed; she gave us a saline draught each. This was the first time I had any suspicion of her being with child. The Princess never said who was the father. When she first told me she was with child, I rather suspected that Sir S. Smith was the father, but only because the Princess was very partial to him. I never knew he was with her alone. We had constant intercourse with the Princess, from the time when I was at Montague-house, till the end of October. After she had first communicated to me. that she was with child, she frequently spoke upon the subject. She was bled twice during the time. She recommended me to be bled too, and said that it would make me have a better time. Mr. Edmeads bled her; she said, one of the days that Mr. Edmeads bled her, that she had a violent heat in her blood, and that Edmeads should bleed her. I told the Princess that I was very anxious how she would manage to be brought to bed without its being known--that I hoped she had a safe per son. She said, yes; she should have a person from abroad; that she had a great horror of having any men about her upon such an occasion-she said, I am confident in my own plans, and I wish you would not speak to me on that subject again, She said, I shall tell every thing to Sander. I think this was on the day on which she told me of what had happened at Lady Willoughby's-Sander was a very good woman, and might be trusted, and that she must be with her at the labour; that he would send Miss Garth to Brunswick, and Miss Milfield was too young to be trusted, and must be sent out of the way. I was brought to bed on the 23d July, 1802. The Princess insisted on being present. I determined that she should not; but I meant to avoid it without offending her. On the day on which I was brought to bed, she came to my house, and insisted on coming in. Dr. Mackie, who attended me, locked the door on the opposite side of the, but there was another door on the opposite side of the room, which was not locked, and she came in at that door, and was present during the time of the labour, and took the child as soon as it was born, and said she was very glad she had seen the whole of it. The Princess's pregnancy appeared to me to be very visible. She wore a cushion behind, and made Mrs. Sander make one for me. During my lying-in, the Princess came one day with Mrs. Fitzgerald. She sent Mrs. F. away, and took a chair, and sat by my bed-side. She said, you will hear of my taking in children in baskets, but you won't take any notice of it. I shall have them brought by a poor woman in a basket. I shall do it as a cover to have my own brought to me in that way; or, that is the way in which I must have my own brought when I have it. Very soon after this two children, who were twins, were brought by a poor woman in a basket. The Princess took them, and had them carried up into her room, and the Princess washed them herself. The Princess told me this herself. The father, a few days afterwards, came and insisted on having the children, and they were given to him. The Princess afterwards said to me, "You see I took the children, and it answered very well. The father had got them back, and she could not blame him; that she should take other children, and have quite a nursery." I saw the Princess on a Sunday, either the 30th or 31st of October, 1802, walking before her door; she was dressed so as to conceal her pregnancy; she had a long cloak, and a very great muff; she had just returned from Greenwich church; she looked very ill, and I thought must be very near her time. About a week or ten days after this, I received a note from the Princess, to desire that I would not come to Montague-house, for they were apprehensive that the children they had taken had the measles in their cloaths, and that she was afraid my child might take it. When the Princess came to see me, during my lying-in, she told me, that, when she should be brought-to-bed, she wished I would not come to her for some time, for she might be confused in seeing me. About the end of December I went to Gloucestershire, and staid there about a month. When I returned, which was in January, E went to Montague-house, and was let in. The 1813.] Depositions relative to the Princess of Wales. The Princess was packing up something in 3 263 leads into the Park, and I have bolts in the inside, and have a bed-fellow whenever I like. I wonder you can be satisfied only with Sir John. She said this more than once. She has told me that Sir Sydney Smith had lain with her. That she be lieved all men liked a bed-fellow; but Sir Sydney, better than any body else; that the Prince was die most complaisant man in the world; that she did what she liked, went where she liked, and had what bedfellow she liked, and the Prince paid for all. The Deposition of Sir John Douglas, knt. I had a house at Blackheath in 1801. Sir Sydney Smith used to come to my honse. I had a bed for him. The Prin cess of Wales formed an acquaintance with Lady Douglas, and came frequently to our house. I thought she came more for Sir Sydney Smith than for ns. After she had been some time acquainted with us, she appeared to me to be with child. One day she leaned on the sofa, and put her hand upon her stomach, and said, Sir John, I shall never be Queen of England.-I said, Not if you don't deserve it. She seemed angry at first. In 1804, on the 27th of October, I received two letters by the twopenny post, one addressed to me, which I now produce, and have marked with the letter B, both on the envelope and the enclosure, and the other letter addressed to Lady Douglas, and which I now produce, and have marked with the letter C both on the envelope and the enclosure. The Deposition of Charlotte Sander. I have lived with the Princess of Wales eleven years. I am a native of Brunswick, and came with the Princess from Brunswick. The Princess has had a little boy living with her under her protection: he had a mark on his haud, but it is worn off; I first saw him four years ago, in autumn. The father and mother of the child are still alive; I have seen them both; the father worked in the dock-yard at Deptford, but has now lost the use of his limbs; the father's name is Austin. The mother brought the child to the Princess when he was four шonths old; I was present when the child was brought to the Princess; she was in her own room up stairs, when the child was brought; she came out, and took the child herself. I understood that the child was expected before it was brought. I am sure that I never saw the child in the house before it appeared to be four months old, The Princess was not ill or indisposed in the autumn of 1802. I was dresser to her Royal Highness; she could not be ill or indisposed without my knowing it. I am sure that she was not confined to her room or to her bed in that autumn; there was not, to my knowledge, any other child in the house; it was hardly possible there could could have been a child there without my knowing it. I have no recollection that the Princess had grown bigger in the year 1802 than usual; I am sure the Princess was not pregnant; being her dresser, I must have seen it if she was. I solemnly and positively swear, I have no reason to know or believe that the Princess of Wales has been at any time pregnant during the time I have lived with her Royal Highness at Montague-house. I may have said to Cole, that the Princess was grown much thinner, but I do not recollect that I did. I never heard any body say any thing about the Princess being pregnant, till I came here to-day. I did not expect to be asked any questions respecting the Princess being pregnant. Nobody came over to the Princess from Germany, in the autumn of 1802, to my knowledge. Her Royal Highness was generally blooded twice a year, but not lately. I never had any reason to suppose that the Princess received the visits of any gentleman at improper hours. Sir Sydney Smith visited her frequently, and almost daily. He was there very late, sometimes till two o'clock in the morning. I never saw Sir Sydney Smith in a room alone with the Princess late at night. I never saw any thing which led me to suppose that Sir Sydney Smith was on a very familiar footing with the Princess of Wales. I attended the Princess of Wales to Southend. She had two houses, No. 9 and No. 8. I knew Capt. Manby, he commanded the African; he visited the Princess while his ship was there; he was frequently with the Princess. I do not know or be heve, and I have no reasou to believe, that Capt. Manby stayed till very late hours with the Princess. I never suspected that there was any improper familiarity between them. I never expressed to any body a wish that Capt. Manby's visits were not so frequent. If the Princess had company I was never present. The Princess was at Ramsgate in 1803; I have seen Capt. Manby there frequently. He came to the Princess's house to dinner, he never stayed till late at night at the Princess's house. I was in Devonshire with the Princess lately, there was no one officer that she saw when she was in Devonshire more than the rest. I never heard from the Princess that she apprehended her conduct was questioned. When I was brought here I thought I might be questioned respecting the Princess's conduct, and I was sorry to come; I don't know why I thought so. I never saw any thing in the conduct of the Princess, while I lived with her, which would have made me uneasy if I had been her husband. When I was at South-end I dined in the Steward's room. I can't say whether I ever heard any body in the Steward's room say any thing about the Captain (meanmg Capt. Manby); it is so long ago, I may have forgot it; I have seen Capt. Manby alone with the Princess, at No. 9, in the drawing-room at Southend; I have seen it only once or twice; it was at two or three o'clock in the afternoon, and never later. I slept in a room next to the Princess, in the house No. 9, at Southend; I never saw Captain Manby in any part of that house but the drawing-room; I have no reason to believe he was in any other room in the house. I was at Catherington with the Princess; she was at Mr. Hood's house; I never saw any familiarity between her and Mr. Hood; I have seen her drive out in Mr. Hood's carriage with him alone; it was a gig; they used to be absent for several hours, a servant of the Princess's attended them; I have delivered packets by the order of the Princess, which she gave me, sealed up, to Siccard, to be by him forwarded to Captain Manby. The birthday of the child who lives with the Prin cess, is the 11th of July, as his mother told me; she says, that he was christened at Deptford. The child had a mark on the hand, the mother told me that it was from red wine; I believe the child came to the Princess in November. Sophia Austin, Swears that she was the mother of the child that was with the Princess; that she was delivered of the boy in Brownlowstreet Hospital, on the 11th of July, 1802; that her husband had been a labourer in Woolwich Dock-yard, and she petitioned the Princess to get him restored, as he had been dismissed. That Stikeman asked her whether she would trust her child to the Princess, and that she received some arrow-root for its food. That she delivered it to the Princess on the 15th of November, 1802, and that she had often seen it since. Then follows a letter from Lady. Willoughby de Eresby, in answer to one from Earl Spencer to Lord Gwydir, transmitting that part of Lady Douglas's evidence which alluded to what happened to the Princess at his house. Lady Willoughby said, that she had no recollection of the fact in May or June, 1802. The register of the birth of the child. Brownlow-street, 11th July, 1802, “William, of Samuel and Sophia Austin." Elizabeth Gorden Swore that she was appointed nurse to the child. It had a stain of elder wine on its hand, but it was now worn out. Its mother often came to see it. Betty Townley, Washerwoman, swore, that she twice washed the linen of the Princess in 1802; observed more marks than usual, and suspected that there had been a delivery or miscarriage. The linen was fine damask, and was marked with a red crown. Mary Wilson told her that the Princess had been bled |